6.06.08 - 17:15 Greek campaign against the Macedonian language

EFA Condemns attacks against the Macedonian language in EU institutions


European Free Alliance – European Political Party - Press Release

EFA sends letters of protest to the European Commission, European Parliament and an open-letter to all MEPs from Greece

The European Free Alliance – European Political Party (EFA) is deeply concerned by the latest campaign of Greek MEPs within EU institutions to replace and in some instances eradicate the use of the term “Macedonian” to describe the Macedonian language, Macedonian culture and persons identifying as ethnic Macedonians.

It is well known that the motivation of Greece and its MEPs on this issue is its blatant refusal to recognise Macedonian identity, both in Greece and beyond.

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EFA wishes to point out that any attempts by bodies of the European Parliament or by Commission to bow to the absurd demands of the Greek MEPs to rename the Macedonian language are not in conformity with article 6(3) of the Treaty on the European Union which declares that: “The Union shall respect the national identities of its Member States.” The Republic of Macedonia is an official candidate country to join the EU and thus it is logical and appropriate for the institutions (and indeed the Member-States) to act in conformity with the principles and spirit contained in the treaties, in the lead-up to the accession of the aforementioned country to the EU.

Moreover, it is quite absurd and indeed erroneous to call the Macedonian language something which it is not. All serious linguists are in agreement on the use of the term Macedonian to describe it. Moreover and ironically, the strongest piece of evidence for the existence of a language called Macedonian comes not from the academic world, but from the Greek state itself. In the Greek census of 1920, the Macedonian language (not Slav-Macedonian, Slavic language or Slavic idiom) was listed as a language spoken by parts of the population in Greece. Parts of the official census results were published (and therefore recognised) by the Greek state. They can be found in the General Archives of the Greek state and has been republished in a book by M. Houliarakis (Geografiki, dioikitiki kai plithismiaki ekseliksi tis Ellados tom G' page 363).

Given that Greece in 1920 officially referred to the Macedonian language as Macedonian, any attempt by the same state almost a century later to modify or eradicate the name of the language (and people and culture connected to it) must be rejected.

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http://www.florina.org/archive/2008/june04_e.html

5.06.08 - 17:05 ......death penalty for Macedonians in Greece

Greek MP asks for death penalty for Macedonians in Greece


According to Athanassios Plevris, ethnic Macedonians committed a felony when they described "Skopje" as "Macedonia" and the language as "Macedonian". Death penalties were demanded for the members of the "Vinozito" party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, as well as for "Greek Helsinki Watch", by Member of the Greek Parliament, Athanassios Plevris of "The People's Orthodox Rally" ("LAOS") Party. The MP of the ultra-nationalist party Georgios Karatzaferis sent a written request to the Foreign Minister, Dora Bakoyannis and to the Minister of Justice, Sotirios Hadjigakis saying that there is a map of Europe on the VINOZHITO website showing "Skopje" as Macedonia and that "Helsinki Watch", which is financed by the Greek government, talks about the existence of a Macedonian language. "This is absolutely unacceptable" he said as he describes the Macedonian language as "Slavic".
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Panayote Dimitras, chairman of the Greek Helsinki Committee, says that both Ministers are overly hostile towards Vinozito and the Greek Helsinki Committee and are willing to take action against them. This confirms the fact that in Greece it is dangerous to say "Macedonian state", "Macedonian language" and "Macedonian minority".

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Despite the multiple decrees and judgments the Council of Europe and the UN has exacted against such acts, Greece continues to violate international human rights treaties. The fact that no political party, no medium and no public organization in Greece protested against the actions of both the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry for Justice, is a clear indication that the political system and society that needs to address the rights of the Macedonians, Turks and others in Greece are locked out. This shows that democracy does not work when dealing with the rights of the minorities in Greece, says Dimitras.
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All text: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1725/1/

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4.06.08 - 16:10 Ha, "Anglo-Saxon Australians"!?

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE CALLED "ANGLO-SAXON AUSTRALIANS"!?


Liberal Party MP for Cowen (WA), the Hon. Luke Simpkins, raised the issue of Australia's official policy toward the name of the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonians in Australia.

Amongst other things, he stated that the current Australian policy on the name of the Republic of Macedonia and the policy toward the Australian citizens of Macedonian descent is offensive and degrading. He, continued by asking fellow Members of Parliament how they would feel if Australia had been referred to in terms such as "Former British Colony of Australia" and "Anglo-Saxon Australians".

He also suggested that in Australia there is no other example of any other community being racially vilified on their name, as there is in the case of the Macedonians and so he implores the Australian Government to follow the example of the other nations, who in their bilateral relations with Macedonia, refer to the country using its Constitutional name,the "Republic of Macedonia", and for the name of the Australian citizens of Macedonian descent to be officially referred to as "Macedonians" as opposed to the current term, based on the 1994 directive, of "Slav-Macedonians".

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3.06.08 - 19:55 NATO apologizes to Macedonia

After the verbal attack by an Athens officer at the "Steadfast Junction" NATO training in France, where he requested Macedonian officers to remove their patches (name and flag) NATO's Secretary General this morning sent a letter of apology to Macedonia's Officers insulted in the incident, the Defense Minister, as well as the Central Command Center.

This is after Macedonia's Defense Minister sent a letter of protest to NATO's General Secretary.
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1.06.08 - 11:15 After greek escape


US: Policy on Macedonia recognition is long standing

There is no change in the longstanding U.S. policy to recognize the Republic of Macedonia by its constitutional name, State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey told the press conference on Thursday.

A reporter asked Casey why the U.S. decided to put a nameplate Macedonia in front of Macedonian delegation to a US-hosted nonproliferation conference in Washington.

The use of Macedonian name triggered stern reactions by Greek and Cypriot delegations, which left the conference in protest.

"First of all, longstanding United States policy as enunciated by Secretary – then Secretary of State Powell - is to recognize the Republic of Macedonia by its constitutional name. So I don’t think it’s any surprise to anyone, including our friends in Greece and Cyprus, that that is the name under which the U.S. Government recognizes Macedonia and that that is the way that they are generally referred to in all U.S. Government-led meetings and activities," Casey said.

"We very much respect and understand that there is a significant disagreement between Greece and Macedonia over the name issue, and we have been strong advocates before, during and after the NATO summit in terms of trying to support Ambassador Nimetz and his efforts to reach a mutually agreeable conclusion to this issue. And that continues to be where we are," Casey said.

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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1628/1/



31.05.08 - 14:35 Greek nonsense



Piteous Greece to sue Indiana Jones over Macedonia

Indiana Jones may end up in Court. Legendary archeologist Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) uses Macedonia's constitutional name in his latest movie when speaking of treasures of the Ancient World.

One can only imagine the reaction of poor Greeks. Dora Bakoyannis, the Greek Foreign Minister fired off a protest letter to legendary director Steven Spielberg for that particular scene in the movie. According to Bakoyannis, Spielberg needed to explain for what Macedonia he is speaking of, upper or lower! Dora had been persistent in her letter, asking to either remove the scene or fix it! If all this doesn't turn fruitful, Greek PM Costas Karamanlis will sue Spielberg for 'misuse' of the name Macedonia.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had so far earned over $150 million.

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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1621/1/

30.05.08 - 19:55 Greek irredentism ......

Map with heading:
GREEK PARLIAMENT (with logo)
HISTORICAL MAP OF GREECE


Click here to zoom the picture

Legend with heading:
THE UNIFICATION OF GREECE

In recent years more and more often we hear the statements of various Greek authorities, parliamentarians, government representatives, ministries, Prime Ministers, journalists and others, about the so-called ‘expansionist propaganda of “Skopje”’ against our country.

Typically, all the above mentioned who utilise such argumentation on the “expansionism of Skopje” have not attempted to enquire or consider the behaviour of our state on the issue of “expansionism”.

The Greek Parliament in 2000 printed a map under the heading “Historical Map of Greece” where part of Turkish territory is presented as being part of the “unitary Greek world”. Specifically, the territory of Asia Minor around Izmir, eastern Thrace, the islands of Imvros and Tenedos are presented as Greek territories.

The title of the map is “Historical Map of Greece” and the legend is headed “The Unification of Greece”. In purple are marked the territories which “united” with the Greek state in 1920 and below, the Treaty of Sevres is mentioned, which partly satisfied the needs of the Greek “Great Idea” (Megali Idea). The very mention of “unification” serves to highlight the “unity” and “indivisibility” of Greek lands, which include the marked purple territories. Of course the nationalists and crypto-nationalists in our country can justify themselves by claiming that the map is not expansionist, but rather represents the real situation on the ground following the Treaty of Sevres in 1920. Well, a similar argumentation can be used by every Macedonian nationalist claiming the same for the Treaty of Bucharest of 1913 in which the well-known map with the division of the Macedonian lands between three states is not expansionist propaganda but rather represents the realistic situation at the actual time. So in actual fact, what is the difference between the title “Historical Map of Greece” (1920) from the title “Historical Map of Macedonia” (1913). Or what is the difference between a title that reads “The Division of Macedonia” and one that states “The Unification of Greece”?


ALL TEXT : http://www.florina.org/archive/2007/2007_greek_irredentism.html


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16.05.08 - 19:30 THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS

THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS, Noel Malcolm, 1992

You begin to notice it in the moment you arrive on Greek soil. If you land at Athens airport, you can find crude posters declaring “Macedonia is Greek” in the customs hall. If you are crossing by land from the former Yugoslavia, you will find the passport control booth covered with stickers making the same point, some of them in English more hysterical than ammatical: “Macedonia is Greece Since Ever”.

……Glancing at the print-out on a computerised bus-ticket, I found, in the space where you might expect “Have a nice trip”, the statement, “Macedonia was and shall be Greek”. Never outside the communist block have I had such a sense of an all-pervading and unanimous campaign, in which all levels of public life are mobilised to whip up popular feeling. If one adds the world-wide campaign run under the cover of the Greek Tourist Board, it must be the most expensive publicity campaign in Greek history.

It is also the silliest……

Throughout the last two centuries, “Macedonia” has been a geographical expression; it refers to a whole region, which in 1913 was divided between Greece, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia… The part which Yugoslavia obtained was named “the Republic of Macedonia” in 1946; the people who lived there had already been widely referred to as “Macedo-Slavs”, and their language as “Macedonian” for decades. When the people of that Yugoslav republic voted for independence last year, it was not surprising that they wanted their new state to be called “Macedonia”-they had no other name. But at this point the Greek government claimed a kind of copyright on the word……..

A high-level commission of jurists from the EEC …. recommended immediate recognition [of Macedonia]. But the Greece still block it; and …… It would take the pen of a Swift or an Orwell to explore all the ramifications of this. More than [two] million people who have spent their lives thinking that they spoke Macedonian, that they read Macedonian literature and watched Macedonian television, are now to be told, at the whim of 12 people lunching in Lisbon, that they speak some nameless thing…..

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(Pictured A statue of Goddess with a machine-gun)

We are dealing here with the strangest and yet in some ways most typical of all Balkan states - a state with a profound neurosis about its own sense of identity. I refer, of course, to Greece. Much has been written about the problems of ex-Yugoslav Macedonia, and the potentially catastrophic consequences of the EEC’s destabilising policy towards it. But little is ever written about the root cause of the problem:the neurotic nature of Greek nationalism….

Their unbroken descent from Plato, Aristotle and Demosthenes sets them apart; theirs is a higher civilisation, a higher destiny. They have nothing to do with the messy history of the Balkans north of their ancient and immemorial border established in 1913 and 1919. This approach to history requires skimming rather selectively over the thousands of years when there was no such thing as a national Greek state. The early Slav invasions, which reached far into Peloponnese and left settlements which spoke Slav well into the 15th century, are preferably ignored. So, too, are the influxes of Albanians which settled many parts of eastern and central Greece ….

In the early 19th century, the population of Athens was24% Albanian, 32% Turkish and only 44% Greek. In the early20th century, Salonica was 60% Spanish-Jewish, 18% Turkish and18% Greek. Things have changed since then…. But just changing the people was not enough. In the mid-1920s, nearly all the Slav, Vlach or other non-Greek place-names were suppressed. Even personal names were not exempt…Boris had they offered him was between “Pericles” and “Byron”.been instructed by the local officials that he must change it to a proper Greek name; the choice

The consequence (or rather, the basis) of this policies is that Greece is that rare thing, almost unknown in Europe, a country with no national minorities. They do not exist; the Greek government says so. For such a phenomenon to be found in the Balkans of all places is indeed a miracle- a sign that Greece is certainly not like other countries. Sitting at a cafe in a Slav village near Florina, in northern Greece, surrounded by people talking in the Slav Macedonian language, I pondered this minor miracle. “They say we don’t exist,” said one of them; “but tell me, do I look like a ghost?”

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…Within Greece, there are no newspapers or radio broadcasts in their [Slavo-macedonian] language. One group of these Slavs has started a small monthly newsletter, with an estimated readership of 10,000. But they have great difficulty finding a printer, and they say that if copies are sent through the post they tend to “disappear”. “Even if we find a sympathetic printer”, one told me, “he’s usually too scared to take the work; he’s afraid of losing all his other contracts,or perhaps of getting bricks through his window.”

Another group, has applied for permission to start a cultural society; the application has been turned down, on the grounds that it is “anti-Greek”. They are not even allowed to sing songs in their language; the last time this happened, at the village festival of Malitis two years ago, proceedings were broken up by the police.

A few bold individuals have taken their case to human rights conferences at Helsinki, Copenhagen and Moscow. I talked to three of these people, each of whom had encountered certain career problems on his return to Greece. Hristos Sideropoulos, a forestry worker - sacked … His friend Stavros Anastasiadis owns a small trucking company - now stands idle… Archimandrit Nikodemos Tsarkinias, showed me a peremptory letter from his bishop telling him that he must leave his parish work….

The public hysteria over the “Skopje Republic”[Macedonia] certainly does not help. The weekly nationalist-extremist newspaper Stohos (”Aim”) now issues regular personal threats against these individuals or their friends, listing names and addresses; its more general articles on this subject carry titles such as “Cut off Their Heads”.

…When I attempt to discuss these issues with Prof. Konstantopoulos, director of the Institute of International Public Law in Salonica, I was assured that the so-called Slavs were just bilingual Greeks….”Why cannot they have a newspaper in their own language?” I asked. “They don’t want one!” shouted the professor…..His anger was cataclysmic….A few minutes later, he assured me that “secret figures” revealed that 18% of the population of Yugoslav Macedonia are Greek- a piece of ethnographic nonsense so gross that even Stohos (”Aim”) might blush to print it.

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The Greek Slav Macedonians are caught between the hammer and the anvil of Greek policy on minorities: assimilation or expulsion. To see successful assimilation in action, one has only to visit the Vlach region in the Pindus mountains of northern Greece. The Vlachs who speak a language closely related to Rumanian, have a population of perhaps no more than50,000 in Greece…. Most modern Greek writings about the Vlachs claim that they are “pure Greeks”, descended from ancient Greeks who just happened to acquire a Latin language when they did military service for the Romans… and one recently published Greek book about the Vlachs gives a list of words in the Vlach language borrowed from Greek, and concludes in all seriousness that Vlach is “a Greek dialect”…..

The 100,000 Turks of western Thrace, on the other hand, have a much stronger sense of ethnic identity. Yet in the eyes of the Greek state they are not Turks at all; they are “Greek Muslims”, a religious minority, not an ethnic one. When DrSadik Ahmet, a surgeon who stood for parliament in 1989, referred in a campaign leaflet to “the Turkish minority”, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison for using the word”Turkish”…… (The Turkish population is mainly agricultural;though they have tractors, they have not been granted licences
in the past.

…this summer’s Amnesty report on torture and ill-treatment in Greeks prisons and police stations happen to concern Turks, Albanians and other non-Greek victims…. The new Greek electoral law will prevent Dr Ahmet from being re-elected next time, and when he loses parliamentary immunity he may face another deferred prosecution. And the long-standing policy of driving these Turks out of Greece continues….More than 3,000 acres have been confiscated for various public projects in the last ten years, and there is now a plan to seize 15,000 acres of farm-land which at present support20,000 Turks ……

Fear of Turkey is, in the long run, a greater stimulus to neurotic Greek nationalism than the Macedonian issue.The fall of the communist bloc has badly damaged Greek self-esteem; …today it is Turkey that is emerging as the strategic power-base of the whole region… Hence, .. a Greek government television advertisement every night, “means equal status for Greece in Europe!” - is a statement either meaningless or mendacious……

Personally, I have found that whenever I have long conversation with EEC politicians or officials, there always comes a point when they say, “Between you and me, I can’t understand how we ever let Greece in.” With its peculiar brand of paranoid nationalism, Greece’s foreign policy is now the biggest single impediment to any sensible EEC policy in the Balkans; and if the Greek public mood intensifies any further, it may threaten not only the future of the ex-Yugoslav Macedonia but the territorial integrity of Albania as well. Amid all the discussions about the procedure for new members to join the EEC, has anyone thought of a polite way of inviting one member to leave?

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15.05.08 - 19:25 ..... They are shooting us

They are shooting between theм, but they are shooting us


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1 and 3 cadre : fair election”

( DPA and DUI - are political parties of Albanian minority in Macedonia)

2 cadre > dog: “.. how for NATO and EU, they are working only against

Macedonia.”

- “Where are now their sponsors who proclaimed them for democrats ?”

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12.05.08. - 19:25 NATO roulette


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28.04.08 - 21: 20 The truth always come to light

MACEDONIA the clip that shocked Greece



13.04.08 - 15: 55 GOODNEIGHBOURHOOD MISSION


Greece: Look ahead,in future … there is NATO and EU … leave (your) history to us

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12.04.08 - 14:00 МАК-корени (MKD -roots)


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2.04.08 - 22:15 THE DIE IS CAT


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27.03.08 - 17:00 SIMPLY: MACEDONIA


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18.03.08 - 20:10 WHY USA TOLERATE GREECE ??












Karamanlis - primeminister

Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2007
Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights,
and Labor
- March 11, 2008

GREECE

"Macedonian minority doesn’ egzist in Greece"


(extract )

National/Racial/Ethnic Minorities……..

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A number of citizens identified themselves as Turks, Pomaks (Slavic speaking Muslims), Vlachs, Roma, Arvanites (Orthodox Christians who speak a dialect of Albanian), or Macedonians. While some members of these groups sought to be identified as "minorities," or "linguistic minorities," others did not consider that these identifications made them members of a "minority." The government considers that the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne provides the exclusive definition of minorities in the country and defines the rights they have as a group. In accordance with this view, the government recognizes only a "Muslim minority." It does not officially confer status on any indigenous ethnic groups nor does it recognize "ethnic minority" or "linguistic minority" as legal terms. However, the government affirmed an individual right of self-identification.

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The government did not recognize the Slavic dialect spoken by persons in the northwestern area of the country as "Macedonian," or as a language distinct from Bulgarian. Most speakers of the dialect referred to themselves as "natives." A small number of Slavic speakers insisted on using the term "Macedonian," a designation that generated strong opposition from the ethnic Greek population. These Slavic speakers claimed that the government pursued a policy designed to discourage use of their language. Government officials and the courts denied requests by Slavic groups to identify themselves using the term "Macedonian," because approximately 2.2 million ethnic (and linguistically) Greek citizens already use the term to identify themselves.

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Many individuals who defined themselves as members of a "minority" found it difficult to express their identity freely and maintain their culture.

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( Practicly this is repetition from report 2006 - expect the part:)

In October 2005 the ECHR ordered the government to pay $42,294 (35,245 euros) to the Rainbow Party( political party of macedonian minority in Greece) for violations of two ECHR articles: the right to a fair hearing and the right to freedom of assembly and association; the government paid the fine during the year.

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Such greek behaviour is basically of his request for change ( not only) the name of Republic od Macedonia but identity of macedinian people,culture, language and especially - mostly, extermination of Macedonian minority in Greece


Why USA and EU tolerate and support such unhuman greek behaviour of nonrecognition and еdisrespect human and minority rights especially for Macedonian minority?

15.03.08 - 19:40 Š“Š Š¦Š˜ŠˆŠ - ŠŠžŠ’Šž Š˜ŠœŠ• ......

NEW NAME FOR GREESE :

GREEK REPUBLIC LIE & DENY


Greek republic Lie & Deny
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13.03.08 - 16:30 М К Š” ŠŸŠŠ ŠšŠ˜Š ŠŠŠŠ• Š’Šž Š А Š¢ Šž

M K D - parking in N A T O



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3.03.08 - 16:20 Š”ŠžŠ”Š•Š”Š”ŠšŠž ŠœŠ•ŠŠ˜: Менување име....мљац....мљац



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21.02.08 - 20:00 Š¤ŠŠšŠ¢Š˜Š¢Š• Š—Š‘ŠžŠ ŠŠ¢

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Š‘ŠŠšŠžŠˆŠŠŠ˜: http://www.florina.org


“ŠŠ°ŃˆŠ° ŠæŠ¾Š·ŠøŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š° е Га најГеме јасно Šø Ń‚Ń€Š°Ń˜Š½Š¾ Ń€ŠµŃˆŠµŠ½ŠøŠµ. Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° е поГготвена Га прифати сложено име, кое ќе ја Ń€Š°Š·Š»ŠøŠŗŃƒŠ²Š° оваа земја оГ поголемиот географски регион кој се вика МакеГонија “


( како оГговор изваГок оГ писмото на “Виножито“ иоГ 5.11.07 Го ŠŠøŠ¼ŠøŃ†):

2.3 Што велат фактите? Имено, во Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° не постои еГинствена аГинистративна ŠæŃ€Š¾Š²ŠøŠ½Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ се вика „МакеГонија“. ŠžŠ“ 13 аГминстративно периферии во Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š°, 3 еГиници го носат името МакеГонија. Тоа се „ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° ЗапаГна МакеГонија“, „ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° Централна МакеГонија“ (со Долун/Тесалоники во истата) Šø „ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° Š˜ŃŃ‚Š¾Ń‡Š½Š° МакеГонија“ во северна Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š°. Иако повеќе оГ еГна ŠæŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° го носи името „МакеГонија“ нема никаква ŠŗŠ¾Š½Ń„ŃƒŠ·ŠøŃ˜Š° ŠæŠ¾Š¼ŠµŃ“Ńƒ овие периферии. Тоа е пораГи фактот ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ секој еГен оГ овие три периферии има префикс („ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° ЗапаГна“, „ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° Централна“, „ŠŸŠµŃ€ŠøŃ„ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š° Š˜ŃŃ‚Š¾Ń‡Š½Š°“) преГ зборот „МакеГонија“ Šø така се Ń€Š°Š·Š»ŠøŠŗŃƒŠ²Š°Ń‚ еГна оГ Š“Ń€ŃƒŠ³Š°. По оваа логика, исто така не може Га има ŠŗŠ¾Š½Ń„ŃƒŠ·ŠøŃ˜Š° ŠæŠ¾Š¼ŠµŃ“Ńƒ еГна или повеќе оГ овие периферии во Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° Šø независната Šø ŃŃƒŠ²ŠµŃ€ŠµŠ½Š°Ń‚Š° Гржава ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ се вика Репубика МакеГонија, име ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ го има префиксот „Република“ преГ зборот „МакеГонија“

2.5 ŠœŠ¾Ń€Š° Га потенцираме Гека во послеГните 15-20 гоГини се вовеГени ŠøŠ¼ŠøŃšŠ°Ń‚а во грчкиот јавен сектор кои ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ го соГржат терминот „МакеГонија“. ŠŠ°Ń˜Ń‚ŠøŠæŠøŃ‡Š½Šø примери се: „ŠœŠøŠ½ŠøŃŃ‚ŠµŃ€ŃŃ‚Š²Š¾ за Деверна Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š°“ кое со оГлука на грчката ВлаГа во 1988 гоГина беше ŠæŃ€ŠµŠøŠ¼ŠµŠ½ŃƒŠ²Š°Š½Š¾ во „ŠœŠøŠ½ŠøŃŃ‚ŠµŃ€ŃŃ‚Š²Š¾ за МакеГонија Šø Š¢Ń€Š°ŠŗŠøŃ˜Š°“, во периоГот кога беше евиГентно Гека ќе се Ń€Š°ŃŃ‚ŃƒŃ€Šø Југославија со можност за созГавање на независна макеГонска Гржава. Š”Ń€ŃƒŠ³ таков пример е „Š˜Š½Š“ŃƒŃŃ‚Ń€ŠøŃŠŗŠ°Ń‚Š° школа во Долун“ која беше ŠæŃ€ŠµŠøŠ¼ŠµŠ½ŃƒŠ²Š°Š½Š° во „Универзитет МакеГонија“ во 1990 гоГина. Š˜ŃŃ‚Š¾Ń‚Š¾ се ŃŠ»ŃƒŃ‡Šø Šø со аероГромот „Тесалоники-ŠœŠøŠŗŃ€Š°“ кој беше ŠæŃ€ŠµŠøŠ¼ŠµŠ½ŃƒŠ²Š°Š½ во „АероГром Тесалоники-МакеГонија“ во 1992 гоГина, кога Република МакеГонија веќе имаше прогласено независност

Š‘ŠŠšŠžŠˆŠŠŠ˜ во Š’Š°ŃˆŠøŠ½Š³Ń‚Š¾Š½: ŠŠ• ŠŸŠžŠ”Š¢ŠžŠ˜ ŠœŠŠšŠ•Š”ŠžŠŠ”ŠšŠž ŠœŠŠ›Š¦Š˜ŠŠ”Š¢Š’Šž Š’Šž Š“Š Š¦Š˜ŠˆŠ !!!!

(како оГговор слеГи изваГок оГ писмото оГ „Виножито“ Го ŠŠøŠ¼ŠøŃ† оГ 5.11.07 )

1.3======Š”ŃƒŃˆŃ‚ŠøŠ½Š°Ń‚Š° на Š²Š½Š°Ń‚Ń€ŠµŃˆŠ½ŠøŠ¾Ń‚ проблем за ова ŠæŃ€Š°ŃˆŠ°ŃšŠµ за Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° е Š¾Š“Š±ŠøŠ²Š°ŃšŠµŃ‚Š¾ Га се признае Šø Га се ŠæŠ¾Ń‡ŠøŃ‚ŃƒŠ²Š° оГГелен Šø посебен макеГонски етнички-национален иГентитет како различен оГ грчкиот биГејќи со тоа ќе колабрира грчкиот мит за национална Ń…Š¾Š¼Š¾Š³ŠµŠ½ŠøŠ·Š°Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° форсиран со Гецении во Гржавата.

Како ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ напоменавме Šø во минатото писмо, макеГонското ŠæŃ€Š°ŃˆŠ°ŃšŠµ ŠæŃ€ŠµŃ‚ŃŃ‚Š°Š²ŃƒŠ²Š° проблем за Š“Ń€Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° преГ се пораГи фактот ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ на нејзина Ń‚ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ‚Š¾Ń€ŠøŃ˜Š° постои макеГонско малцинство. ŠžŠ²Š“Šµ се крие Ń‚Š°Ń˜Š½Š°Ń‚Š° на грчката Š°Ń€Š³ŃƒŠ¼ŠµŠ½Ń‚Š°Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° околу навоГниот иреГентизам на Дкопје.

Š‘ŠŠšŠžŠˆŠŠŠ˜ : “.....
. ŠžŃŃ‚Š°Š²ŠµŃ‚Šµ ја ŠøŃŃ‚Š¾Ń€ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° за Га ГојГеме Го Ń€ŠµŃˆŠµŠ½ŠøŠµ Šø Га биГеме заеГно во ŠŠŠ¢Šž Šø во ЕУ....“ (??)

Š•, само Га го каже ова преГ оглеГало, па Га Šø ŠæŠ¾Š²ŠµŃ€ŃƒŠ²Š°Š¼Šµ.
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18.02.08 - 23:10 ŠœŠŠšŠ•Š”ŠžŠŠ¦Š˜Š¢Š• - ŠŠ‘ŠžŠ Š˜ŠŠŠŠ˜ ?

По еГновековното Š¾Š½ŠµŠæŃ€Š°Š²Š“ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ на ГомороГниот нароГ ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚Šµ во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š°, Šø по еГноГецениско Š·Š°Š“Ń€Š¶ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ- Ń‡ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ на преГлогот за јавно извинување Го ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚е за тие неправГи кон нив, австралискиот парламент собрал Ń‚Ń€Š¾ŃˆŠŗŠ° Гоблест Šø “ŠæŃƒŃˆŃ‚ŠøŠ» Гуша“ Га се извини Го ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚е за “Глабока болка,навреГа Šø понижување“ ,ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ им се нанесени оГ политиката на минатите влаГи.

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Дали со тоа се Š·Š°Š²Ń€ŃˆŠµŠ½Šø неправГите кон етничките заеГници во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š°?

Тешко.

Дали ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š° се новите ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½Šø ?

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Š›Š°Š±ŃƒŃ€ŠøŃŃ‚ŠøŃ‡ŠŗŠ°Ń‚Š° ŠæŠ°Ń€Ń‚ŠøŃ˜Š° која е преГвоГник за ова извинување Го ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚е на своја сметка има Šø Š“Ń€ŃƒŠ³Š° неправГа , кон ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š° - не само ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ ги ŠæŃ€ŠµŠŗŃ€ŃŃ‚ŃƒŠ²Š°Š°Ń‚ во славмакеГонци Ń‚ŃƒŠŗŃƒ се оГбива Šø ŠæŃ€ŠøŠ·Š½Š°Š²Š°ŃšŠµ на ŃƒŃŃ‚Š°Š²Š½Š¾Ń‚Š¾ име на МакеГонија ,(пра)татковината на ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š° Šø тоа само поГ влијание на грчкото лоби кое плаќа Гебело ( не само )на партиска сметка Šø со гласови на изборите.

Š‘Š°Ń€Š°ŃšŠ°Ń‚Š° на ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онвите во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š° за нивното право на именување како ŠœŠŠšŠ•Š”ŠžŠŠ¦Š˜ Šø за ŠæŃ€ŠøŠ·Š½Š°Š²Š°ŃšŠµ на ŃƒŃŃ‚Š°Š²Š½Š¾Ń‚Š¾ име на Република МакеГонија Š½Š°ŠøŠ“ŃƒŠ²Š°Š°Ń‚ на глуви уши на австралискте централни власти.

Дали Šø овие Š±Š°Ń€Š°ŃšŠ° на ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците ќе мора Га “оГлежат“ во фиоките на политичката -партиска Š±ŠøŃ€Š¾ŠŗŃ€Š°Ń‚ŠøŃ˜Š° како Šø за ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚е , ГоГека не им “текне“ Га им се извинат на ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците?

Š—Š¾ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ австралиските власти не извлечат поука оГ нивниот оГнос кон ŠŠ±Š¾Ń€ŠøŃŸŠ°Š½ŠøŃ‚е, па Га ја “сторат“ правГата Šø кон ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠµŠ“онците во ŠŠ²ŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Š»ŠøŃ˜Š° кои се нејзини лојални граѓани- Š“Ń€Š¶Š°Š²Ń˜Š°Š½Šø Šø им слеГат тие права ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ ги бараат?

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15.02.08 - 23:30 - Š”Šž ŠšŠžŠŠ”ŠžŠ›Š˜Š—Š РАЈД

( ова е преземено оГ http://admiror.blog.com.mk )


До КонГолиза Рајс

( dostaveno po e-mail - 13.02.08 )

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Dear Madame Secretary,


With my respect, I am free to suggest you to look and read a LETTER (5.11.07) from RAINBOW - Political party of the ethnic Macedonians in Greece ( http://www.florina.org ) to Matthew Nimetz

United Nations Special Envoy on the Name Dispute between Greece and Republic of Macedonia.

This letter is also addressed to Minister of Foreign Affairs of Greece - Mrs. Dora Bakogiannis (your gest these days).

Between other thinks you can ask Mrs. Dora Bakogiannis what is her or her government answer to this letter from masedonian political party.

Mrs Raise , you can closed the eys but the facts will not disappear

So, it is fact that Grese doesn’t accept and respect

humans and minoritis rights in Grese especially rights of

ethnic Macedonians

Then, why such privileged treatment for Greese with tolerance and support for her behaviour against humans and minoritis rights especially rights of

ethnic Macedonians ?

Please,read the letter and answer the questions from letter to yourself .

Sincerely,


Stanko Georgievski ( Skopje , Makedonija )


13.02.08

P.S.

Please, read Human Rights Watch Report on Greece http://www.umdiaspora.org/images/Identity.pdf

********** the U.S. Department of State's Human Rights Report on Greece. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78815.htm

************* MHRMI 2008 Annual Report on Greece.

http://mhrmi.org/news/2008/january27b_e.asp

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7.02.08 - 20:15 “ ТИ ŠŠŠœ .......“!?

По Š·Š°ŠæŠ¾Ń‡Š½ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµŃ‚о на “танцот на цените“ на некои прехранбени произвоГи ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ влаГата оГ прво го оцени како “светски тренГ“ ( а ние Гуша Гаваме за слеГење “тренГови“) Šø по критиките оГ Š¾ŠæŠ¾Š·ŠøŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° Гека влаГата не прави Š½ŠøŃˆŃ‚о за опаѓачкиот тренГ на станГарГот на граѓаните, влаГата како Га се тргна малку оГ тренГовското глеГање на работите ,па Ń€ŠµŃˆŠø по пример на Єрватска Šø Гр. земји, Га поработи малку на ова, па формира комитет за слеГење на цените како Šø Š¾Ń‚ŠæŠ¾Ń‡Š½ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ преговори со произвоГителите Šø трговците( a, овие веќе оГговориле негативно ) за ŠæŠ¾ŠµŃ„Ń‚ŠøŠ½ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ на некои произвоГи како маслото за јаГење, лебот, млекото.

ŠœŠ°ŠŗŠ°Ń€ ŃˆŃ‚Š¾, основно би било влаГата Га се заангажира за ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ поГобро “Š¾ŠæŃ€ŠµŠ¼ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ“ на нивите , а не на своите кабинети Šø Š“Ń€ŃƒŠ³Š°Ń‚Š° Š°Š“Š¼ŠøŠ½ŠøŃŃ‚Ń€Š°Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° - оГ правилна поГелба на обработливото Š·ŠµŠ¼Ń˜ŠøŃˆŃ‚е, а не по партиска линија, за Š²Ń€Š°ŃœŠ°ŃšŠµ на сончоглеГот Šø Š“Ń€ŃƒŠ³Šø ŠŗŃƒŠ»Ń‚ŃƒŃ€Šø на нивите; набавка на моГерна Š¼ŠµŃ…Š°Š½ŠøŠ·Š°Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° - ( старите комбајни прават Гиректна ŃˆŃ‚ŠµŃ‚Š° оГ 20-30 % оГ роГот на пченицата ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ не можат Га ја соберат) итн,итн...

Š• ,сега не навлегувајќи ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ се’ ќе направи влаГата Šø Š¾ŠæŠ¾Š·ŠøŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° - граѓаните ќе си го тргаат теретот на било кој начин - Га не биГам Šø јас во Ń‚Š¾Ń˜ “тренГ“ на Š±Š»Š°Š±Š¾Ń‚ŠµŃšŠµ Šø (празно)ŠæŃ€ŠµŠ³Š¾Š²Š°Ń€Š°ŃšŠµ Га “фатам“ некој Ń€ŠµŃ˜Ń‚ŠøŠ½Š³ би “ŃƒŃ„Ń€Š»ŠøŠ»“ на еГен преГлог:

Имено, ŃƒŃˆŃ‚Šµ преГ некоја гоГина кога беше слична ŃŠøŃ‚ŃƒŠ°Ń†ŠøŃ˜Š° со маслото за јаГњење, па масларите почнаа Га “играат“ Šø со амбалажата - ја намалуваа Га биГат цените поизГржливи при поеГинечно купување, на масларите им ГаГов преГлог Га го наГминат ŠæŠ¾ŃŃ‚Š¾Ń˜Š½Š¾Ń‚Š¾ ŃŠ¾ŠæŠµŃ€Š½ŠøŃˆŃ‚Š²Š¾ Га не речам Šø Š½ŠµŠæŃ€ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚ŠµŠ»ŃŃ‚Š²Š¾ Šø Га се Š·Š“Ń€ŃƒŠ¶Š°Ń‚ при набавка на амбалажата ( а Šø ŃŃƒŃ€Š¾Š²ŠøŠ½ŠøŃ‚Šµ, сирово масло Šø Гр.) така ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ со поголема количина ќе можат Га остварат Ń„Ń€Š°Š½ŃˆŠøŠ·Š° - помала цена.

Š˜ŃŃ‚Š¾ така, Га не се намалува амбалажата Ń‚ŃƒŠŗŃƒ Га се зголеми на 1,250 или 1,300 Š» така ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ би се Š·Š°ŃˆŃ‚еГила четврта или петта Ń„Š»Š°ŃˆŠ° , па граѓаните нема Га ŠŗŃƒŠæŃƒŠ²Š°Š°Ń‚ 4 Ń„Š»Š°ŃˆŠø ( ако месечната просечна ŠæŠ¾Ń‚Ń€Š¾ŃˆŃƒŠ²Š°Ń‡ŠŗŠ° е околу 4 Š» ) Ń‚ŃƒŠŗŃƒ би купиле 3 Ń„Š»Š°ŃˆŠø , па би се Š·Š°ŃˆŃ‚еГило Šø за цената за еГна амбалажа Šø во еГна трговска маржа Šø ДДВ.А, масларите би оствариле Šø Š·Š°ŃˆŃ‚ŠµŠ“Šø во транспортот, ŠæŠ°ŠŗŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµŃ‚Š¾ на Ń„Š»Š°ŃˆŠøŃ‚Šµ, транспортот внатре во фирмата Šø Гр.

Ама, “ ти нам .... , ха “ !?

“ Што има ти Га Гаваш некој преГлог Šø ŃˆŃ‚Š¾ имаш ти оГ тоа “! ? ( ????????)

И, нормално Š½ŠøŃˆŃ‚о оГ тоа.

ŠŠµŠ·Š½Š°Š¼ Гали е Šø тоа “светски тренГ“, наш ŃŠøŠ³ŃƒŃ€Š½Š¾ е , ама Š½ŠµŃˆŃ‚о оГ ова може Šø сега Га се оствари наместо Га има некои празни ŠæŃ€ŠµŠ³Š¾Š²Š°Ń€Š°ŃšŠ° за Га се покаже - ете, правиме Š½ŠµŃˆŃ‚о, ама овие тренГови се појаки “

Или Šø за влаГата важи “ ти нам ....“ !?( а, богами, Šø ако не си оГ наша ŠæŠ°Ń€Ń‚ŠøŃ˜Š°“!)

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6.02.08 - 14:10 Š–Š˜Š’Š•Šˆ Š’Šž Š•-МК !


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17.01.08 - 20 : 30 МАК ФУДБАЛ


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14.01.08 - 20:50 МАК. Š”ŠŸŠžŠ Š¢


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30.12.07 - 21:50 Š”Š Š•ŠŒŠŠž

ДЕ’ ŠŠŠˆŠ”ŠžŠ‘Š Šž Š’Šž ŠŠžŠ’ŠŠ¢Š 2 0 0 8 Š“ŠžŠ”Š˜ŠŠ

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22.12.07 - 16,50 - ( ŠŠ• ) ŠŸŠžŠ”Š›Š£ŠØŠŠ ВЛАДТ

ŠžŠ²Š¾Ń˜ текст беше поставен во мај месец оваа гоГина Šø колку оГ ова е “послушано“ можете Šø сами Га си Š·Š°ŠŗŠ»ŃƒŃ‡ŠøŃ‚е .

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ŠŠ•Š¢ŠŠšŠ”(ИР)ŠŠ АБЕР Š”Šž ВЛАДТА

*ŠŠµ Š·Š°Š±Š¾Ń€Š°Š²Š°Ń˜Ń‚Šµ: нароГот гласаше за смена на власта, а не за проста замена.

*ŠŠµ се Š·Š°Š½ŠµŃŃƒŠ²Š°Ń˜Ń‚е : Гобивте само власт, нароГот ќе го “Гобиете” само со Гела.

*ŠŠµŠ¼Š¾Ń˜Ń‚Šµ Га испаГне: избрани, па заборавливи.

*ŠŠµ ŃˆŠøŃ€ŠµŃ‚Šµ ги Š²ŠµŃ‚ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠ°Ń‚Š° , направете ги Гела .

*ŠŸŃ€Š°Š²Š½Š° Гржава не се граГи на ( Šø со ) митинзи Šø прес конференции.

*Де ГоГека законитоста ни е болна страна, Гржавата ќе ни биГе незГрава.

*Де ГоГека партискиот став е Š—ŠŠšŠžŠ ќе имаме проблем со законитоста.

*Дистемот оГ ŠøŠ½ŃŃ‚ŠøŃ‚ŃƒŃ†ŠøŠø на системот треба Га биГе правна траса, а не лавиринт.

*Демократските процеси не се граГат само со еГен ŃŠ»ŃƒŃ‡Š°Ń˜, ама може Га се Š½Š°Ń€ŃƒŃˆŠ°Ń‚ Šø само со еГен ŃŠ»ŃƒŃ‡Š°Ń˜ - инциГент.

*Š”Š»ŃƒŃ…Š¾Ń‚ за нароГот нека не ви биГе како низ иглени уши.

*За Ń˜Š°Š²Š½Š¾ŃŃ‚Š° може Га се биГе Šø неГопирлив, ама за законот не.

*Транспарентноста нека се оглеГа во текот на процесот на работата, а не после, по Š»Š¾ŃˆŠøŃ‚е послеГици .

*Дите Госега велеа Гека се прават само за МакеГонија, а МакеГонија резил направена .

*ŠŸŃ€Š°Ń‚ŠµŠ½ŠøŃ†ŠøŃ‚Šµ се бирани за во парламент, а не за во разни ŃƒŠæŃ€Š°Š²Š½Šø оГбори.

*Š¤ŃƒŠ½ŠŗŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° навистина обезбеГува некои привилегии ама ŃŠøŠ³ŃƒŃ€Š½Š¾ мегу нив не е Šø ŃƒŠ¼Š½Š¾ŃŃ‚Š° Šø Ń…ŃƒŠ¼Š°Š½Š¾ŃŃ‚Š°

*Кога власта ќе ви навлезе во глава Šø Гуша, ŃŃ‚Š°Š½ŃƒŠ²Š°Ń‚Šµ безГушни.

*До множење на привилегиите во власта, Š½Š°ŃŃ‚Š°ŠæŃƒŠ²Š° Гелење оГ нароГот.

*Š˜Š·Š¼ŠµŃŃ‚ŠµŠ½ŠøŃ‚Šµ работи кај нас нема Га се наместат ако се “ŃŠ¼ŠµŃŃ‚ŃƒŠ²Š°Š°Ń‚ “ нови “изместени” луге

*До Ń„ŠøŠ»Š¾Š·Š¾Ń„ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° “наш човек” Šø Готеравме само Го оваа наша нароГна беГа Šø Ń‚Ń€Š°Š³ŠµŠ“ŠøŃ˜Š°.

*ŠšŠ¾Š°Š»ŠøŃ†ŠøŃ€Š°ŃšŠµŃ‚Š¾ може Га биГе компромис само со партиските интереси , никако со националните Šø Гржавни интереси

*ЕГна влаГа - еГен премиер, а не секој коалиционен партнер Га има свој “премиер”.

*Во работата ŠøŠ¼Š°Ń˜Ń‚е визија, ама Š±ŠµŠ³Š°Ń˜Ń‚е оГ ŠæŃ€Š¾Š²ŠøŠ·ŠøŃ˜Š°.

*ŠšŠ¾Ń€ŃƒŠæŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š°Ń‚Š° не се забележува само кога ја ŠæŃ€Š°ŠŗŃ‚ŠøŠŗŃƒŠ²Š°Ń‚Šµ сами.

*ŠžŃŃ‚Š°Š²ŠµŃ‚Šµ ја Гебатата Гали сме само малку “Ń‚Ń€ŃƒŠ“Š½Šø” со ŠŗŠ¾Ń€ŃƒŠæŃ†ŠøŃ˜Š° Ń‚ŃƒŠŗŃƒ Га се ŃŠæŃ€Š°Š²ŃƒŠ²Š°Š¼Šµ со тоа Ń‚Š¾Š»ŠŗŃƒ колку ја има.

*Š¢. н.. Š¼ŠµŠ³ŃƒŠ½Š°Ń€Š¾Š“Š½Š° заеГница има своја улога кај нас; Š½ŠµŠ¼Š¾Ń˜Ń‚Šµ Š½Š°ŃˆŠ°Ń‚Š° улога Га ја свеГете ( Šø Š½Š°Ń‚Š°Š¼Ńƒ) на епизоГна.

*Во оГносите со Š¼ŠµŃ“ŃƒŠ½Š°Ń€Š¾Š“Š½Š°Ń‚Š° заеГница Га биГеме Ń‚Š¾ŠŗŠ¼Ńƒ поГготвени, за Га не биГеме стокмени.

*Во ( Šø оГ ) власта притисокот за Š·Š°Ń‚Š°ŃˆŠŗŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ на работите е секогаш посилен оГ притисокот за Ń€Š°ŃŃ‡ŠøŃŃ‚ŃƒŠ²Š°ŃšŠµ на работите.

*ŠŠµ Š·Š°Š»Š°Š¶ŃƒŠ²Š°Ń˜Ń‚Šµ го нароГот, ќе се излажете.

*Ако тоа ви помага, работете со мисла Гека ŃƒŃˆŃ‚Šµ ŃƒŃ‚Ń€Šµ ќе има нови избори

*ŠŸŃ€Š²ŠøŠ¾Ń‚ кабает во власта најлесно се прави во постизборната ŠµŃƒŃ„Š¾Ń€ŠøŃ˜Š°; потоа се иГе (по)лесно-кон изборниот пораз.

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