Greek prime minister Karamanlis : Our position is rihtful and we have strong arguments
against FIROM ( read: Republic of Macedonia)
against FIROM ( read: Republic of Macedonia)
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2.07.08 - 16:35 Athens :diplomatic war against Washington
American senators, greek mercenaries
The U.S. Administration voiced discontent over Senate's hampering of the appointment of the next U.S. Ambassador to
The appointment was blocked by pro-Greek
Biggest concern for
Meanwhile,
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1.07.08 - 14:35 The justice catch up Greece
Aegean Macedonians from
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- We need our properties and land back, it is up to us if we are going to sell or keep it.
For decades, the Aegean Macedonians have pressured the Yugoslav Government about their properties and land in
The Greek Government have created some disturbingly racist and discriminating laws against Macedonians. After it became evident
Aegean Macedonians spoke of the Greek Communists who with the Macedonians were like brothers and fought shoulder to shoulder against the Greek (British) monarchy in
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30.06.08 - 13: 45 Politics and /against sport
The irrational problem which Greese made against the name od
Preventive measure were undertaken, which included empty stands and police presence in large numbers, due to clashes between fans 3 years ago.
The Macedonian Club "Preston Lions" won the match 2-1 at "Melbourne Hellas".
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28.06.08 - 14:20 Greek politics ::provocations
Later, the EUFOR mission (governed and funded by EU) told the Macedonian soldiers they don't have to abide by the rules, such as having a different code, they can still use their code.
Once the EU officials in
The Greek soldiers stationed in
Unlike the case with Macedonian uniforms in
The Government in
According last news, Macedonian Prime Minister Gruevski on his scheduled meeting with Nimetz has formally requested international mediation (UN, OSCE, EU) with
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7.06.08 - 16:30 US says :Greek accusations -"absurd"
US says accusations of anti-Greek action "absurd"
The U.S. Department of State has dismissed as "absurd and inaccurate" the reports from 
The statement came after extensive reports from
The recent news reports from
"Those reports are inaccurate, inappropriate and totally absurd. And I would suggest that anyone making them check their facts because they're wrong," State Department's deputy spokesman Tom Casey told reporters.
"I can state with authority that I am fully confident that both our Embassy in Athens, as well as our Consul is behaving in a fully appropriate manner consistent with the role of diplomats everywhere, which is certainly to talk not only to government officials, but to members of civil society in all forms, including those who might not always agree with the governments of the day," Case said.
He stressed that the reports are completely wrong, making spurious and scandalous accusations against fine members of the U.S. Foreign Service.
The "classified" document, published in Greek media, blows the whistle on actions of the
According to classified document, these meetings were to put in motion an alleged secret plan by the
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26.06.08 - 13:35 Greek lie:"Macedonia is one and Greek"
POLITICAL PARTY OF THE MACEDONIAN MINORITY IN GREECE
Member of the European Free Alliance - European Political Party (EFA-EPP)
Member of the Federal Union of European Nationalities (FUEN)
Florina/Lerin - June 25, 2008
The Greek “Ethnofylaki” or “National Guard” is a military unit, officially and legally integrated into the structures of the Greek Army.It is a form of state organization, with the task to “protect the state against any form of extraordinary, internal or external, threats”
A few weeks ago the Florina/Lerin Greek National Guard Battalion organized a festive gunfire training for its members and all potentially interested civilians.
In the invitation for the event – public poster which was distributed among the population read:
The last sentence of the invitation, coming from an official entity of the Greek state, constitutes a flagrant and outrageous provocation against a sovereign state, the Republic of Macedonia, whose borders are only 20 kilometres away from the place the event took place.
Furthermore, yet again it is proof of Greece’s hypocrisy, which on the one hand accuses the Republic of Macedonia of irredentism while on the other hand constantly adopts irredentist policies and fosters provocative acts against this country.
We regret to conclude that Greece will never accept the existence of the Macedonian people, inside and outside of its borders, unless it is forced to do so.
EFA-Rainbow reveals the true face of the Greek “democratic” state, its real intentions, and urges all EU institutions to exercise pressure on our country.
Are we to wonder if the slogan "MACEDONIA IS ONE AND GREEK!" promoted by the Greek government and the Greek army will be used to invade the Republic of Macedonia in times of instability in the Balkans?
Greece must once and for all start acting like a true EU member-state and not like an expansionist totalitarian dictatorship of the past.
The Press Office
of EFA-Rainbow
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10.06.08 - 16:15 NATO: France is to blame....
NATO: France is to blame, not just the Greek Officer
The Greek officer had verbally attacked Macedonians to take out their badge with the flag and name of the country. The Macedonian officers had refused to take it out and upon consultation with the Macedonian Military decided to leave France ahead of schedule.
"The host country, France, and the organizing training cell had not contacted the central NATO Command in Brussels upon receiving a complaint from a member country." says in its letter Jan Hoop De Scheffer sent to Macedonia's Minister of Defense, Lazar Elenovski.
NATO's conclusion is, the host country France committed an error for allowing, and then taking sides with the Greek Officer by asking the Macedonian Officers to change in "civilian clothing", instead of consulting with Brussels as the official rules and protocol suggests.
Jaan De Hoop Scheffer, continues to say that NATO does not have any policy on uniforms, it is strictly up to the nation to choose.
"Your contributions to the Alliance are of great importance, and are much appreciated. I would like to inform you that I will personally make sure this sort of incident does not occur in the future." says Scheffer in his letter.
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9.06.08 - 22:15 Question to the Committee of Ministers
Written Question No. 547 by Mr Cilevics: "Implementation of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights on the right to association for national minorities in Bulgaria"
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In its judgment in the case of UMO Ilinden - PIRIN and others v. Bulgaria (59489/00) of 20 October 2005 (final on 20 January 2006), the European Court of Human Rights found a violation of Article 11 of the Convention in respect of a political party whose stated aims included, inter alia, the recognition of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria.
In document CM/Inf/DH(2007)8, the Committee of Ministers stated that where the Court has found violations of the right to freedom of association on account of dissolutions, or refusals of registration, of organisations and political parties, the Committee of Ministers has, in application of this principle, seen to it that the respondent state has removed laws or practices incriminated by the Court and offered the applicants the possibility to have their organisation registered anew in proceedings respecting the Convention.
However, following the 2005 judgment, UMO Ilinden - PIRIN has twice, in vain, sought re-registration and continues to remain unregistered.
Given that the diligent and timely execution of judgments of the European Court of Human Rights is an issue of fundamental importance for the Parliamentary Assembly,
Mr Cilevics,
to ask the Committee of Ministers,
what the Committee of Ministers intends to undertake in order to facilitate execution of the above-mentioned judgment by the authorities of Bulgaria, so as to ensure the effectiveness of the Council of Europe system for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms?
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Source: https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?id=1297009
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9.06.08 - 19:30 The European Commission presses the Bulgarian government
Amnesty International:
The newest report of the Amnesty International mentions the Macedonian Minority's struggle in Bulgaria. The report states that in September, the European Commission called on the Bulgarian government to respect the decisions by the European Court of Human Rights that Bulgaria should allow the registration of the OMO Ilinden PIRIN party, which represents the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. Both the Supreme Court and the Sofia City Court had denied the party’s application for registration.
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The newest report of the Amnesty International mentions the Macedonian Minority's struggle in Bulgaria. The report states that in September, the European Commission called on the Bulgarian government to respect the decisions by the European Court of Human Rights that Bulgaria should allow the registration of the OMO Ilinden PIRIN party, which represents the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. Both the Supreme Court and the Sofia City Court had denied the party’s application for registration._________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
7.o6.08 - 19:40 Greek speciality: provocations
"The same happened with the President of Macedonia - a country with 'unfortunate name'," Jelko Kacin said.
"Evidently, these incidents do not occur randomly. We are witnessing a planned policy of escalation and deliberate provocations on the part of
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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1749/1/
6.06.08 - 17:15 Greek campaign against the Macedonian language
EFA Condemns attacks against the Macedonian language in EU institutions
European Free Alliance – European Political Party - Press Release
EFA sends letters of protest to the European Commission, European Parliament and an open-letter to all MEPs from Greece
The European Free Alliance – European Political Party (EFA) is deeply concerned by the latest campaign of Greek MEPs within EU institutions to replace and in some instances eradicate the use of the term “Macedonian” to describe the Macedonian language, Macedonian culture and persons identifying as ethnic Macedonians.
It is well known that the motivation of
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EFA wishes to point out that any attempts by bodies of the European Parliament or by Commission to bow to the absurd demands of the Greek MEPs to rename the Macedonian language are not in conformity with article 6(3) of the Treaty on the European Union which declares that: “The Union shall respect the national identities of its Member States.” The Republic of Macedonia is an official candidate country to join the EU and thus it is logical and appropriate for the institutions (and indeed the Member-States) to act in conformity with the principles and spirit contained in the treaties, in the lead-up to the accession of the aforementioned country to the EU.
Moreover, it is quite absurd and indeed erroneous to call the Macedonian language something which it is not. All serious linguists are in agreement on the use of the term Macedonian to describe it. Moreover and ironically, the strongest piece of evidence for the existence of a language called Macedonian comes not from the academic world, but from the Greek state itself. In the Greek census of 1920, the Macedonian language (not Slav-Macedonian, Slavic language or Slavic idiom) was listed as a language spoken by parts of the population in
Given that Greece in 1920 officially referred to the Macedonian language as Macedonian, any attempt by the same state almost a century later to modify or eradicate the name of the language (and people and culture connected to it) must be rejected.
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5.06.08 - 17:05 ......death penalty for Macedonians in Greece
Greek MP asks for death penalty for Macedonians in Greece
According to Athanassios Plevris, ethnic Macedonians committed a felony when they described "Skopje" as "Macedonia" and the language as "Macedonian". Death penalties were demanded for the members of the "Vinozito" party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, as well as for "Greek Helsinki Watch", by Member of the Greek Parliament, Athanassios Plevris of "The People's Orthodox Rally" ("LAOS") Party. The MP of the ultra-nationalist party Georgios Karatzaferis sent a written request to the Foreign Minister, Dora Bakoyannis and to the Minister of Justice, Sotirios Hadjigakis saying that there is a map of Europe on the VINOZHITO website showing "Skopje" as Macedonia and that "Helsinki Watch", which is financed by the Greek government, talks about the existence of a Macedonian language. "This is absolutely unacceptable" he said as he describes the Macedonian language as "Slavic".
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Panayote Dimitras, chairman of the Greek Helsinki Committee, says that both Ministers are overly hostile towards Vinozito and the Greek Helsinki Committee and are willing to take action against them. This confirms the fact that in Greece it is dangerous to say "Macedonian state", "Macedonian language" and "Macedonian minority".
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Despite the multiple decrees and judgments the Council of Europe and the UN has exacted against such acts, Greece continues to violate international human rights treaties. The fact that no political party, no medium and no public organization in Greece protested against the actions of both the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry for Justice, is a clear indication that the political system and society that needs to address the rights of the Macedonians, Turks and others in Greece are locked out. This shows that democracy does not work when dealing with the rights of the minorities in Greece, says Dimitras.
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4.06.08 - 16:10 Ha, "Anglo-Saxon Australians"!?
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE CALLED "ANGLO-SAXON AUSTRALIANS"!?
Liberal Party MP for Cowen (WA), the Hon. Luke Simpkins, raised the issue of Australia's official policy toward the name of the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonians in Australia.
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Liberal Party MP for Cowen (WA), the Hon. Luke Simpkins, raised the issue of Australia's official policy toward the name of the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonians in Australia.
Amongst other things, he stated that the current Australian policy on the name
He also suggested that in Australia there is no other example of any other community being racially vilified on their name, as there is in the case of the Macedonians and so he implores the Australian Government to follow the example of the other nations, who in their bilateral relations with Macedonia, refer to the country using its Constitutional name,the "Republic of Macedonia", and for the name of the Australian citizens of Macedonian descent to be officially referred to as "Macedonians" as opposed to the current term, based on the 1994 directive, of "Slav-Macedonians".
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When ?
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3.06.08 - 19:55 NATO apologizes to Macedonia
After the verbal attack by an Athens officer at the "Steadfast Junction" NATO training in France, where he requested Macedonian officers to remove their patches (name and flag) NATO's Secretary General this morning sent a letter of apology to Macedonia's Officers insulted in the incident, the Defense Minister, as well as the Central Command Center.
This is after Macedonia's Defense Minister sent a letter of protest to NATO's General Secretary.Meanwhile, NATO will have an internal investigation on the incident.
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1.06.08 - 11:15 After greek escape
There is no change in the longstanding
A reporter asked Casey why the
The use of Macedonian name triggered stern reactions by Greek and Cypriot delegations, which left the conference in protest.
"First of all, longstanding
"We very much respect and understand that there is a significant disagreement between
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1628/1/
31.05.08 - 14:35 Greek nonsense
Piteous Greece to sue Indiana Jones over Macedonia
One can only imagine the reaction of poor Greeks. Dora Bakoyannis, the Greek Foreign Minister fired off a protest letter to legendary director Steven Spielberg for that particular scene in the movie. According to Bakoyannis, Spielberg needed to explain for what Macedonia he is speaking of, upper or lower! Dora had been persistent in her letter, asking to either remove the scene or fix it! If all this doesn't turn fruitful, Greek PM Costas Karamanlis will sue Spielberg for 'misuse' of the name Macedonia.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had so far earned over $150 million.
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30.05.08 - 19:55 Greek irredentism ......
.....and expansionism exposed officially from the Greek Parliament
Map with heading:
GREEK PARLIAMENT (with logo)
HISTORICAL MAP OF GREECE
Click here to zoom the picture
Legend with heading:
THE UNIFICATION OF GREECE
In recent years more and more often we hear the statements of various Greek authorities, parliamentarians, government representatives, ministries, Prime Ministers, journalists and others, about the so-called ‘expansionist propaganda of “Skopje”’ against our country.
Typically, all the above mentioned who utilise such argumentation on the “expansionism of Skopje” have not attempted to enquire or consider the behaviour of our state on the issue of “expansionism”.
The Greek Parliament in 2000 printed a map under the heading “Historical Map of Greece” where part of Turkish territory is presented as being part of the “unitary Greek world”. Specifically, the territory of Asia Minor around Izmir, eastern Thrace, the islands of Imvros and Tenedos are presented as Greek territories.
The title of the map is “Historical Map of Greece” and the legend is headed “The Unification of Greece”. In purple are marked the territories which “united” with the Greek state in 1920 and below, the Treaty of Sevres is mentioned, which partly satisfied the needs of the Greek “Great Idea” (Megali Idea). The very mention of “unification” serves to highlight the “unity” and “indivisibility” of Greek lands, which include the marked purple territories. Of course the nationalists and crypto-nationalists in our country can justify themselves by claiming that the map is not expansionist, but rather represents the real situation on the ground following the Treaty of Sevres in 1920. Well, a similar argumentation can be used by every Macedonian nationalist claiming the same for the Treaty of Bucharest of 1913 in which the well-known map with the division of the Macedonian lands between three states is not expansionist propaganda but rather represents the realistic situation at the actual time. So in actual fact, what is the difference between the title “Historical Map of Greece” (1920) from the title “Historical Map of Macedonia” (1913). Or what is the difference between a title that reads “The Division of Macedonia” and one that states “The Unification of Greece”?
ALL TEXT : http://www.florina.org/archive/2007/2007_greek_irredentism.html
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16.05.08 - 19:30 THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS
THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS, Noel Malcolm, 1992
You begin to notice it in the moment you arrive on Greek soil. If you land at
……Glancing at the print-out on a computerised bus-ticket, I found, in the space where you might expect “Have a nice trip”, the statement, “
It is also the silliest……
Throughout the last two centuries, “
A high-level commission of jurists from the EEC …. recommended immediate recognition [of
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(Pictured A statue of Goddess with a machine-gun)
We are dealing here with the strangest and yet in some ways most typical of all Balkan states - a state with a profound neurosis about its own sense of identity. I refer, of course, to
Their unbroken descent from Plato, Aristotle and Demosthenes sets them apart; theirs is a higher civilisation, a higher destiny. They have nothing to do with the messy history of the Balkans north of their ancient and immemorial border established in 1913 and 1919. This approach to history requires skimming rather selectively over the thousands of years when there was no such thing as a national Greek state. The early Slav invasions, which reached far into
In the early 19th century, the population of
The consequence (or rather, the basis) of this policies is that
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…Within
Another group, has applied for permission to start a cultural society; the application has been turned down, on the grounds that it is “anti-Greek”. They are not even allowed to sing songs in their language; the last time this happened, at the village festival of Malitis two years ago, proceedings were broken up by the police.
A few bold individuals have taken their case to human rights conferences at
The public hysteria over the “
…When I attempt to discuss these issues with Prof. Konstantopoulos, director of the Institute of International Public Law in Salonica, I was assured that the so-called Slavs were just bilingual Greeks….”Why cannot they have a newspaper in their own language?” I asked. “They don’t want one!” shouted the professor…..His anger was cataclysmic….A few minutes later, he assured me that “secret figures” revealed that 18% of the population of Yugoslav Macedonia are Greek- a piece of ethnographic nonsense so gross that even Stohos (”Aim”) might blush to print it.
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The Greek Slav Macedonians are caught between the hammer and the anvil of Greek policy on minorities: assimilation or expulsion. To see successful assimilation in action, one has only to visit the Vlach region in the Pindus mountains of northern
The 100,000 Turks of western
in the past.
…this summer’s Amnesty report on torture and ill-treatment in Greeks prisons and police stations happen to concern Turks, Albanians and other non-Greek victims…. The new Greek electoral law will prevent Dr Ahmet from being re-elected next time, and when he loses parliamentary immunity he may face another deferred prosecution. And the long-standing policy of driving these Turks out of Greece continues….More than 3,000 acres have been confiscated for various public projects in the last ten years, and there is now a plan to seize 15,000 acres of farm-land which at present support20,000 Turks ……
Fear of Turkey is, in the long run, a greater stimulus to neurotic Greek nationalism than the Macedonian issue.The fall of the communist bloc has badly damaged Greek self-esteem; …today it is Turkey that is emerging as the strategic power-base of the whole region… Hence, .. a Greek government television advertisement every night, “means equal status for
Personally, I have found that whenever I have long conversation with EEC politicians or officials, there always comes a point when they say, “Between you and me, I can’t understand how we ever let Greece in.” With its peculiar brand of paranoid nationalism, Greece’s foreign policy is now the biggest single impediment to any sensible EEC policy in the Balkans; and if the Greek public mood intensifies any further, it may threaten not only the future of the ex-Yugoslav Macedonia but the territorial integrity of Albania as well. Amid all the discussions about the procedure for new members to join the EEC, has anyone thought of a polite way of inviting one member to leave?
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