Upon the initiative of the European Free Alliance – Rainbow, a Motion for a Resolution on “Discriminatory laws against ethnic Macedonian political refugees” has been tabled at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE).

The Motion, supported by representatives from 13 different European countries, spanning all major political groups, “strongly urges the Greek Government, without delay, to review the above-mentioned laws and end the discrimination resulting from them so that ethnic Macedonian political refugees from Greece can reclaim their Greek citizenship and property” and recommends that the relevant PACE committee “investigate this matter and engage with the Greek authorities with a view to ending the aforementioned discrimination.”

EFA-Rainbow wishes to thank Mr Geert Lambert of Belgium (the first signatory) for his continual support on Macedonian human rights issues. Mr Lambert is a member of the Flemish political party “Vlaams Progressiven”. Both EFA-Rainbow and Vlaams Progressiven are members of the European Free Alliance – European Political Party, which together with the Greens make up the fifth largest group in the European Parliament.

EFA-Rainbow also extends its gratitude to all signatories including the numerous ones from Turkey and the Republic of Macedonia.

The Motion, officially tabled during the recent Part-Session of PACE, was officially put onto the website of the Council of Europe earlier this week. The matter will now be discussed by the Bureau of the Assembly in late November 2008. EFA-Rainbow trusts that the Bureau will look at the Motion seriously and act in the best interests of the Macedonian political refugees from Greece.

EFA-Rainbow also calls upon the various bodies of the Council of Europe to continue to monitor the situation in Greece to ensure that the human rights of the ethnic Macedonian minority are being respected.

The full text of the Motion :

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/WorkingDocs/Doc08/EDOC11754.htm
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16/10.08 - 16:50 There is some putrefaction in EU

German MEP stunned by Nimetz's proposal

"It is very important to break away from the name blockade and see Macedonia in NATO" says German MEP Angelika Beer.

"When I first heard of Nimetz's proposal, I was stunned. I thought this is just byrocracy, this is impossible. Why would Macedonia have a name "Northern Macedonia"? Northern Macedonia implies there must be Southern Macedonia, and the two will eventually be united. It is practically the same case as Cyprus." says Angelika Beer.

"Macedonia can make deals under the constitutional name, so the name is sort of, a compromise. Never the less, the Macedonian Government and people via referendum will decide for any proposal they would see fitting" concluded Beer.

IPI/SEEMO expresses its concern at the detainment of journalists in Greece

The Vienna-based South East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO), a network of editors, media executives and leading journalists from South East Europe and an affiliate of the International Press Institute (IPI), is alarmed at recent restrictions on reporters' ability to freely carry out their work in Greece.

According to information before SEEMO, four journalists from the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia/Republic of Macedonia, Goran Momiroski of A1 TV, Meri Jordanovska of Nova Makedonija newspaper, and two other crew members of A1 TV, were arrested in the afternoon of 13 October 2008 by Greek authorities.

The journalists had intended to cover a protest against a disputed army training site and gunfire exercises by the Greek Army in the village of Lofi, near the Greek-Macedonian border.

Despite carrying valid press cards and visas for Greece, the media representatives were detained because they did not have a special filming license and requested to hand over the material they had gathered at the demonstration.

After their release, a police escort strongly advised them not to talk to eye witnesses of the protest and eventually escorted them to the border.

SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic voiced his concern over this clear infringement of the free movement and freedom of expression of journalists and hoped the Greek authorities will adopt strong measures against such interference with media efforts to report on a story of public interest.

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14.10.08 - 16:55 Greek war scenes in Lofi/Zabrdeny

War scenes in Lofi/Zabrdeny

Florina/Lerin - October 14, 2008

http://www.florina.org/news/2008/october14_e.asp

War scenes

Only a week ago, EFA-Rainbow expressed hope that the “irresponsible-responsible” people who decided the heavy artillery gunfire exercises at the field beside the Macedonian village of Lofi/Zabrdeny took the message from the wide reaction against it of the local population.
We believed they understood, also because they’ve also promised that no heavy artillery shots would be performed, during the 10 days the army exercise was supposed to last.

Unfortunately, seems that some people will never come to their senses. In an unprecedented demonstration of slyness and audacity (and of course, without the slightest warning, in order to catch the inhabitants “off-guard”), tanks made a snap move inside Lofi/Zabrdeny, in an obvious attempt to make the exercise shots they could not perform one week ago. Numerous special police units came along also, to implement the “law of the stronger” with “Far-West” methods.

Despite all that, inhabitants not only from Lofi/Zabrdeny but also from Vevi/Banica, Kelli/Gornichevo and Meliti/Ovcaharany stood in front of the army and police forces to obstruct the exercise. Immediately afterwards, the “brave” police forces, using methods resembling the 7-year long dictatorship (1967-1974), started to attack the gathered people. They broke arms and legs, violently dragged women and children from the street (!), handcuffed and arrested 4 of the locals (including the president of the Lofi/Zabrdeny municipal council) as if they were the worst criminals and took them to jail.

This outrageous police attack did not intimidate the local population. OIn the contrary, hundredths more gathered and stayed all night in front of the exercise field, demanding the unconditional release of the arrested. Eventually, this happened in the early morning hours with no charges pressed against the Macedonians, who were simply defending the village’s PRIVATE roads which lead to their PRIVATE property.

We would directly like to ask the Greek political, army and police authorities:
• In which other part of the Greek territory, raw violence was selectively used to suppress a peaceful demonstration of local population who wanted the closure of an army exercise field? How is it possible that in Greece of 2008 we have 2nd class citizens? Is it because of their beliefs and the language they speak?
• Under what kind of rationale, tanks come out of nowhere in an inhabited place, taking the population by surprise, as if we were in a war situation? Who is the “enemy” at last?
• When is the will of the people living in these Macedonian villages, to permanently stop the operation of the army exercise field, going to be respected? Why they receive mockery and violence instead?
• In which member State of the EU such shameless acts take place? When is Greece’s continuous international decrial going to stop?

Enough is enough! If, after all these incidents, the army exercise field will not IMMEDIATELY and permanently suspend its operation, the Greek authorities bare sole responsibility for anything that will happen in the future.

The Press Office
of EFA-Rainbow

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14.10.08 - 16:50 Greek army - occupier

Protests as Greek army seeks to stage manoeuvres amidst Macedonian minority

http://www.florina.org/news/2008/october14b_e.asp

Belgrade, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 by Georgios N. Papadakis

Injuries, arrests and clashes between Macedonian minority inhabitants, the Greek army, and special police units, are continuing since yesterday afternoon in the village of Lofi/Zabrdeny in Northern Greece, next to the border with the Republic of Macedonia.

It all started when Greek army tanks and other armoured vehicles tried to move through the Macedonian village and reach an army taring site to practice heavy artillery fire. The inhabitants of Lofi/Zabrdeny, aided by people from the nearby villages of Meliti/Ovcharany, Vevi/Banica and Kelli/Gornichevo, blocked the road leading to the training site, demanding that no heavy artillery fire would take place and that the armed forces withdrew from the village. Instead, special police units arrived and tried by force to clear the road, arresting four people. Among them the President of the local Lofi/Zabrdeny municipal council, Kole Mitskopoulos.

Over the following hours more than 300 people from all the neighbouring villages came to the spot and demanded the immediate release of the arrested and the withdrawal of tanks and special police forces. Early this morning the four were released without charges and the inhabitants were promised that no heavy artillery practice would be performed.

“We were taken completely by surprise. Last week the army was also here but after the instant reaction of the people in Zabrdeny, they left promising that no tanks will show up. But they came to perform heavy artillery fire above our heads. We cannot allow this to happen, this is a severe health hazard, nobody knows what these missiles contain. Similar protests for the removal of army training sites happen all over Greece, but only here did we have this brutal intervention of the police. This is like a revival of the military dictatorship.” Said Kosta Tasevski, a Lofi/Zabrdeny inhabitant, to Eurolang.

The disputed army training site lies practically on the outskirts of Lofi/Zabrdeny, very close to houses and in the middle of private arable land. During army exercises over recent years, missiles have, accidentally, nearly hit the village while locals are not allowed for days to go to their properties. They are demanding the closure of the training site and the army has in the past promised that there would be no artillery fire.

The issue is set to be taken to the international level. Last week the Macedonian Prime Minister voiced concerns about the situation of the Macedonian minority in the region and urged Greece to withdraw its forces from the training site, situated next to the Greek-Macedonian border.

According to unofficial sources, the Macedonian government will send a protest note to Athens and Brussels later today. (Eurolang 2008)

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13.10.08 - 20:15 The Greek army and police against MACEDONIANS!!!!!!

The Greek police have begun beating up and arresting ethnic Macedonians!

Greek army clashes with local ethnic Macedonian population in village near Lerin

One Macedonian has minor injuries and four have been arrested, after incidents which took place this afternoon in the area surrounding Lerin (Florina). Ten days ago, after the requests from the local population, the Greek army withdrew from its training camp near the village of 'Zabrdeni'. Today, the Greek army returned to the region.

This time, the Greek army came with a strong police presence as well as tanks and other large automotive machines.

The Greek police specialists intervened when the local ethnic Macedonian population tried to stop the Greek army from setting up camp and heavy-military training right next to their village.

"They were arresting people and sending them to jail. They have four so far and by nightfall, they will surely arrest more", said a Macedonian from the Lerin region.

One man, an ethnic Macedonian, has been injured during the pushing and shoving, whilst four (4) ethnic Macedonians were arrested.

It is expected that trumped-up charges will be laid against them as early as this evening, for alleged assault on uniformed officers. According to Greek laws, one may face a few years in prison for such offences.

Macedonians from a few villages surrounding Lerin including Zabrdeni and Ovcharani are still in position blocking the path to the new training camp of the Greek army.

"We are sitting and lying down in front of the tanks, the people do not want the army to conduct its training with all this heavy weaponry. There are some 150-200 policemen here and those numbers will be strengthened, they will bring in the specialists. The village is Macedonian, it is called Zabrdeni", announced an ethnic Macedonian from the village.

After the last incidents which took place ten days ago, local leaders made an agreement with the army that in its actions in the region, it would not destroy the crop-growing fields, it would not use heavy vehicles and it would not use live ammunition for target practice, near the populated areas.

However, without any prior announcement, the Greek Government sent a new contingent of soldiers reinforced with police, who today created an incident in the Lerin (Florina) region. Local Members of Parliament were not informed of these activities by the Greek army, despite their parliamentary requests last week for the army not to disturb the peace of the local population in this region.

In stark contrast to the actions of the Greek army who withdrew without any problems, because of protests in the Peloponnese and other places, this time in Aegean Macedonia, the Greek Government has come with a different tactic.
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Regarding the army gunfire exercise in a Macedonian village "Lofi" (Zabrdeny), Florina - Lerinsko, North Greece

October 6, 2008
Press Release

"I don't care what you do, I'm not from here, I'm from far away … Good that you die of cancer (!).
Since you live on the border, you must tolerate both the army and its gushot exercises. If you don't want to, then take your village beyond the Greek border!"
The above statement was made by a Greek police officer during the demonstration of the people of Lofi/Zabrdeny who demanded the permanent closure of the army exercise field in the village due to health and security reasons.

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11.10.08 - 13:20 End the Greek Tragedy

End the Greek Tragedy

The endless bickering over Macedonia’s name merely distracts from a far greater need.

SKOPJE | Josip Broz Tito calendars hang on office walls, memorabilia of the old Yugoslav leader clutter plywood shelves of Skopje’s bazaars, and on one of the capital’s busiest streets, the Broz Cafe is bustling on a warm October afternoon. The fading letters of the marshal’s “unity and brotherhood” speech that mark the international outpouring of help after the 1963 Skopje earthquake fill one crumbling wall of the former railway station – now the site of a museum and Tito memorabilia shop.

If there is Tito nostalgia in Macedonia, it may be more than fondness for an era when there were jobs and the Balkans were unified (never mind the political repression). “He respected our identity,” said one aging Skopje shopkeeper selling replicas of wartime memorabilia of the anti-Nazi partisan movement that Tito led. “He would never allow this shame to go on.”

Playtime's over, boys.

That “shame” is Greece’s opposition to Macedonia’s name. In one of the most intractable disputes resulting from the implosion of Yugoslavia, the Greeks insist that their tiny neighbor rebrand itself, fearing that “Republic of Macedonia” implies territorial ambitions on its northern region of Macedonia.

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9.10.08 - 23:25 Macedonian ambassador :LETTER TO EDITOR

LETTER TO EDITOR: Macedonia, NATO, Greece

Sens. Olympia Snowe and Robert Menendez raise a critical issue in resolving the vexing name dispute between Macedonia and Greece in "Macedonian Quandary"(Commentary, Sept. 24).

Greece claims that "Macedonia" can only refer to a province in Greece and any use by any other country of that name is a direct attack on Greek sovereignty and an attempt to partition Greece. It's a bizarre claim, considering that Macedonia has only a police force along the common border and Greece is a NATO member.

The court of public opinion understands that there are two sides to every story - especially when it comes to the name Macedonia. Macedonians gained their independence following the breakup of Yugoslavia in 1991.

Our small country of 2 million people borders Greece. After nearly falling victim to the ethnic divisions and wars that ravaged the Balkan region, Macedonians set about charting a course for Western integration. Over the course of just six years, we broke down political barriers and devolved government power, overhauled the judiciary and cracked down on corruption. Our country has emerged as an ethnic melting pot dedicated to building a democratic system based on the rule of law, freedom of speech, religious tolerance and human rights.

A modernized Macedonian military has deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq. U.N. forces are using Macedonia as headquarters to keep peace in Kosovo. Clearly, we are a country that understands the underpinnings of NATO: shared democratic values.

In Macedonia, these are not just words; they are practices put into action. NATO has decided that Macedonia has earned entry into the alliance, but in April at the Bucharest Summit, one country objected - and that was Greece.

It objected not because of any shortcoming in Macedonia's exhaustive economic, political and military reform checklist but because of the name of our country. In doing so, Greece violated the interim accord it signed with Macedonia in 1995, which prohibits blocking Macedonia from any international institutions while the name issue is being resolved.

We cannot afford to let a debate that stretches back 2,000 years get in the way of the safety and security of Europe and the United States, and Macedonia remains determined and committed to resolving the name dispute with Greece.

NATO's December meeting presents an opportunity to extend an invitation to a country that will contribute to broadening NATO's sphere of security and democracy. Disagreements over a name should have no bearing on keeping Macedonia out.

ZORAN JOLEVSKI

Ambassador

Republic of Macedonia

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7.10.08 - 20:10 George Bush and camrades Marx, Engels, Lenin

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5.10.08 - 13:30 Greek-Bulgarian alliance against Macedonians

Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece under constant pressure

Representatives of the Macedonian political parties in Bulgaria and Greece were present at OSCE’s annual meeting dedicated to European minorities and human rights held in Warsaw, Poland.

Members of OMO Ilinden - Pirin, Macedonian party in Bulgaria issued a statement of unseen psychological torture.

- After our latest attempt to register the party, Bulgarian authorities started a systematic campaign of insulting and scaring our members. All 5,800 political members, I repeat, all 5,800 members were officially summoned by the Bulgarian police! - said representative of OMO Ilinden - Pirin at the meeting which encompassed more than 1,000 Governmental and non governmental organizations (NGO’s).

- Ladies and Gentlemen, this is psychological torture. Out of 300 political parties in Bulgaria, only our party and members are mistreated. Bulgaria is still defying an order from the Strasbourg Court to register our party - said representative from Omo Ilinden.

According to the Party, the police investigation was not to find irregularities within the party, rather to scare and threaten members to give up their membership in OMO Ilinden - Pirin.

The Macedonians in Greece were represented by their political party Vinozito, who said that Greece in line with their nationalist ideology refuse to recognize Macedonian identity and language. Greece, says Vinozito, has not ratified the Convention for protection of minorities saying it is a “useful tool for breaking up the Soviet Union and bringing down the Milosevic regime.”

“Vinozito” informs that Greece has refused to register a Macedonian Cultural Center in Lerin, which is a non profit organization.
- Almost two decades have passed, since 1989. The Berlin wall went down, but the walls of twisted views and injustices towards Macedonians in Greece still thrive - said representative of “Vinozito”.

The Macedonians in Greece have encouraged the Government to include “Macedonian” on their scheduled census for 2011. “Vinozito” informed of Greek Professor and Human Rights Activist Panayote Dimitris who is under constant pressure by the Police.

During the session, “Vinozito” presented a document recently published in Eleftherotypia of a meeting that took place between the Greek Secret Service and Editors of major Greek Newspapers who received instructions on what they need to write regarding Greece’s minorities.
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3.10.08 - 23:20 Greek trump against "unexzisting macedonian minority" - frightening

Macedonians with Church Bells against the Greek Army

Thirty Macedonians from Ovcarani, Aegean Macedonia (Greece), for two days protested in front of a Greek military training field near the village of Zabrdeni, asking for the Greek Army to retrieve from their region, inform local citizens.

Greek soldiers who slept in tents under the open sky were woken up late at night from the sounds of church bells from the surrounding villages who all rang at the same time.

Ethnic Macedonians in Greece are fed up with the Greek Army intimidation tactics to show up with tanks surrounding their villages, under the auspices of ‘training’. Local resident who wished to remain anonymous explained to MINA that the Greek Army always chooses to show their might in cities and villages where ethnic Macedonians are the majority.

-They come here, surround our villages with tanks and stay here for weeks, sometimes months. They think we will get scared. Why don’t they do their training in Athens? - says an ethnic Macedonian from Ovcarani who also complained of the pollution the tanks caused to his crops.

Two nights ago, local villagers set up a four car road blockade to prevent the Greek Army convoy from reaching their training destination. A tractor was also added to the blockade, after which the Greek police and a public prosecutor arrived at the place of the incident.

Negotiations between the police and the demonstrators went until midnight, after which the Macedonians left.
Yesterday demonstrators gathered again to protest the presence of the Greek Army and their intimidation tactics who according to local residents never work.

Three elite units of the Greek MoI were sent to prevent the Macedonians from entering the training ground.

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Macedonian Government worried for Macedonians in Greece

The Cabinet of the Macedonian Government has issued a statement on the protests of the Macedonians in Northern Greece in relation to activities of the Greek Army. "We are very worried about the protests and are hopeful Greece will take into considerations the reactions of citizens in that particular part of Greece. We hope the training of the Greek Army is not a demonstration of force." says in the statement.

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30.09.08 - 19:30 CALIMERO - INTERNATIONAL LAW

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30.09.08 - The Konikovo Gospel

The Konikovo Gospel (Bibl.Patr.Alex. 268)

A bilingual vernacular Gospel manuscript from Macedonia

(late 18th – early 19th century)

In the winter of 2003/04, researchers from the University of Helsinki found an interesting bilingual manuscript, written in what is now Greek Macedonia in the late 18th or early 19th century. It contains a Greek evangeliarium (Gospel lectionary for Sunday services) and its Slavic translation, both written in Greek letters. What makes the manuscript unique is its bilinguality, and the fact that both the Greek and the Slavic texts represent the vernacular, not the church language. The Slavic part is the oldest known text of greater scope that directly reflects the living dialects of Southern Macedonia. It is also the oldest known Gospel translation in Modern Macedonian.

The beginning of the Slavic text, with corrections by Pavel Božigropski, was printed in Thessaloniki in 1852–1853, and these four pages have been known in Slavic studies as the “Konikovo Gospel” after Pavel’s home village (nowadays known as Dytikó). The newly found manuscript shows, however, that the translation came into being earlier and in a fashion other than has been assumed. The manuscript also reflects the sound structure of the local dialect better than the short printed text did.

The manuscript must originally have contained about 124 pages, 74 of which have been preserved. The Slavic part is a valuable source for research into the dialects and more recent history of Macedonian. The Macedonian language is the closest relative of Bulgarian. It did not acquire a definitive standard language until after World War II.

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27.09.08 - 16:30 Macedonians tied to Antic Macedonians

Macedonians tied to Antic Macedonians, Greeks to Celtic, Germanic, Slavic...

Today’s Macedonians are descendants of the Antic Macedonians, says research results from the Swiss Genealogy Institute iGENEA. For a second time an independent research institution confirms what Oxford and Madrid University confirmed a decade ago.

iGENEA is the most famous global Genealogy institute who once again frustrated the Greek government by confirming the direct connection between the Macedonians today and in Antic times.

The question came from a Greek citizen who asked iGENEA the following question: "What are the roots of today SlavMacedonians".

The Institute responded: "Before all, they are Macedonians, not slavMacedonias as you referred to them for political reasons. The largest part of the Macedonians are direct descendants of the Antic Macedonians. Only a minor portion have a Slavic connection".

iGENEA backed up their findings with hard numbers. However, tying the today's Macedonians with Antic Macedonians is not the only disappointing information for Greece. According to iGENEA, only 32 percent of Greek citizens have Macedonian, Hellenic and even Arab origin. iGENEA further explains that 31 percent of Greek citizens have Celtic roots, 12 percent Germanic and Slavic origin, while 11% have Illyrian roots.

iGENEA also negated the Illyrians roots of the Albanians. In stark contrast to Albanian beliefs, IGENEA says the Albanians have the least Illyrian roots. Only 20 percent of the Albanians have Illyrian roots, while 40 percent of today’s Bosnians have Illyrian roots.

In the past several months, the iGENEA Genealogy Institute had been flooded with requests by Greek Citizens who, ironically, did not care for their own origin, but all questions were aimed at the Macedonians' origin. iGENEA in its research uses DNK analysis, historical, archeological, and anthropological sources.
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26.0o9.08 - 00:45 Let´s Not Forget the Exiled Macedonians from Greece

Controversy in Greece over visit of UN minority expert

After reading the MINA article http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/3525/46/ about Panayotis Dimitras, member of the Greek Helsinki Monitor, I couldn´t help but remember what my father had told me about other United Nations visits to the Greek concentration camps in the Greek islands in the past where Macedonians and others were tortured daily.

It was naïve of me to ask, "Why didn´t anyone report the abuses while the people from the UN visited you?" "Because no one wanted to die a horrible death," was the answer. The UN and other investigative bodies came and went but the prisoners remained and were constantly reminded of what would happen not only to them personally but to their families and friends if they spoke up. They were also reminded that "the strangers will come and go but you will definitely stay". "How were we to know that these people were truly from the UN and not another ´Greek show´, a ploy to pull us into getting into trouble and giving the Greeks another excuse to torture and murder us?" was another answer I received.

If I were a Macedonian living in Greece today what would I think if a high profiled Greek such as Panayotis Dimitras is openly threatened in the face of the entire world with "high treason" and life imprisonment just for saying Macedonians exist in Greece? I would have to ask myself "if they can do that to Panayotis a member of the Greek Helsinki Monitor who is well known worldwide, imagine what they can do to me, an unknown person, if I speak up?" "Would I dare say I am Macedonian and risk my life and the lives of my family?" The answer would most likely be NO!

Macedonians have many examples to refer to where they were put in similar circumstances and many times were let down. The Greeks are back to their old tricks because these tricks are tried and proven tactics that have worked well for them in the past! They know this will bring them the desired results without any consequences.

But let me tell you something, not all Macedonians from Greece live inside Greece where the Greek government has them under its thumb. There are millions of Macedonians, yes millions of exiled Macedonians whose citizenship and properties were expropriated by the Greek government and who were driven out of Greece. To this day I have yet to find a single Macedonian who has left Greece willingly and hasn´t been driven out as a war refugee or as an economic refugee.

The Macedonians still living in Greece have no rights but they at least still have their lands, homes, citizenship and live where they were born. Unfortunately that is not the case with the Macedonians and other minorities which Greece has exiled over the years.

From what happened to Mr. Dimitras it should be obvious to everyone that the Macedonians living inside Greece are in peril from the Greek government and from the racist and fascist organizations the Greek state supports. Those Macedonians who volunteered information to the UN have put themselves and their families at great risk.

Greece has used similar threats before and knows its methods are tried and proven. It knows terror tactics will work because its minorities live and have always lived in fear and will not dare reveal themselves or freely speak to strangers. Greece will exercise its threats and send people to jail; it has done this before and has suffered no consequences so it will do it again. Macedonians living inside Greece unfortunately have suffered many consequences in the past and would be less willing to come forth with information.

Another place to obtain reliable information about the Macedonians in Greece is to interview Macedonians from Greece who live outside of Greece where they can´t be threatened with violence and long jail sentences.

To exile people from their homes and to have their homes, properties and citizenship confiscated is not only immoral but also illegal and today the law is on the Macedonian side.

Seource: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/74968

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24.09.08 - 22:45 Senator’s price

UMD Letter to Senator Obama

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23.09.08 - 23:30 Alexander the Great was Macedonian

Strong reaction between Greek and Macedonian internet users caused by the British TV Channel "Challenge TV". On a very popular quiz show there was a question "What nationality was Alexander the Great? The response "Greek" was Incorrect.

"The correct answer according to the TV producers was that Alexander is "Macedonian" and the flag of the former yugoslav republic of Macedonia was shown. Hundreds of Greek internet users voiced their disagreement at the Quiz internet site as well as on YouTube where the Macedonians posted the video."

This is what happens when politics is removed from history and facts. The British couple lost 23,000 pounds ($45,000) because of their wrong answer. Although sad, they'll never forget Alexander's nationality.

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23.09.08 - 12:10 Greek opposition against all "MACEDONIANS"

Greek Delegation quits UNESCO Conference in Bucharest

Greek Delegation left a UNESCO Conference for South Eastern European Cultural Heritage held in Bucharest.
According to the report, there are two reasons for this. "First reason is because Macedonia was listed under the constitutional name. Second reason is, at the conference Skopje offered a book that speaks of a "Macedonian language". Steps are undertaken from the Greek Embassy in Bucharest".

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20.09.08 = 00:00 STRIP(irana) MAKEDONIJA

МАКЕДОНСКА ПОЛИТИЧКА СЦЕНА

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Како по правило,секоја власт ,по устоличувањето,се спознава себе како( доволна сама пo себе) од бога дадена,па и однесувањето им е во тој стил:
Ние сме ВЛАСТ - ние знаеме најдобро што е потребно ....

>>>>Арогантноста е стил на владеење и однесување спрема политичките опоненти - опозицијата, а богами и спрема помалите партии од владеачката коалиција.
>>>>Зависно од ситуацијата,се разбира од интерес на владеачката гарнитура,се демонстрира спремност за соработка повикувајќи ги другите субјекти.
>>>> Се оди дотаму да се прикажува и “идиличност“ во можностите во односите со другите субјекти
>>>>Секако ,не пропуштајќи прилика да се
покаже кој е кој во таквата ситуација со што се покажуваат и вистинските намери.
>>>Но , и другите субјекти искористуваат некоја можност да покажат иницијатива за презентација на своите замисли и интереси
>>>> И неизбежно веднаш одат да се пожалат до претставниците на т.н. меѓународна заедница во земјава.

>>>> Овие ,не чекајќи повторно да им се каже , ја користат приликата веднаш да интервенираат, потенцирајќи ја својата улога во развојот на земјава.
>>>> Стриктно професионално им ја демонстрираат на домашните авторитети реалната состојба и позиција во однос на распоредот на силите демонстрирајќи одлучна иницијатива за средување на работите како (им) одговара најдобро.

Секако,не се пропушта прилика да се потврди задоволството од својата улога и спремноста за натамошно нејзино учество во ваква соработка со домашните авторитети во решавање на проблемите.
>>>>Претставниците на нашата власт ја признаваат улогата на меѓународната заедница и (понизно) покажуваат спремност за натамошна соработка
Па,соочувајќи се повторно со сопствената претстава за својата позиција на ВЛАСТ , си продолжува да работи на својата замислена и зацртана програма за делување.

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19.09.08 - 00:25 Punishment for speaking the truth

Panayote Dimitras facing High Treason charges for speaking about Macedonians

Greece has an investigation against me, the charges are “high treason”, because I had spoken about the Macedonians in Greece, says Panayote Dimitras in an interview for BBC Macedonian.
Mr. Dimitras is a member of the Greek Helsinki Monitor.
“I already met the prosecutor and gave my statement. If I end up in Court, the only possible sentence is jail for life.” says Dimitras, a long time campaigner for minority rights in Greece.
This interview was done shortly after the visit of UN Independent minority expert Gay McDougall in Northern Greece. Mr. Dimitras accompanied McDougall on her visit.
Himself and other members of the Greek Helsinki Monitor informed McDougall on all questions regarding her mandate; on the Macedonian, Turkish, religious minorities, including the Roma population, problems with racism and anti-Semitism.

- The message to the UN expert was this: the conditions in Greece are dire, none of the minority groups are represented at any level. In fact, if and when any of these minorities have a complaint, they are frequently attacked by the Media and Government. It’s not just the minorities. Organizations, such as ours that fights for equal rights and promotes rights are being attacked.
If I can use one sentence - Democracy in Greece, came in 1974, it is yet to come for the minorities, says Mr. Dimitras.

Can you describe McDougall’s reaction after she heard the responses from Greek Helsinki Monitor?

- We are not allowed to speak of her reactions. The only thing I can say is, something that she said at a Press Conference in Athens, is that the recommendations and suggestions of the UN Committee, and the Greek Helsinki Monitor would be part of her report. And in those reports is easy to see that Greece negates the existence of Macedonian and Turkish people, as well as the catastrophic situation of our Roma population. I do not doubt for a second that McDougall’s report would be much different than our official position i.e. there are people in Greece who identify themselves differently from the Greeks.

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